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From Randy,
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I have a 'which comes first, the chicken
or the egg?' question. Should you take lessons first, or should you be
fitted for clubs first? I've been playing for two years, and I am a 20+
handicap. I have a good swing, but I have several break- downs: wrists,
tempo and I don't bump my hip forward every time, creating active legs.
Thank you for your time! |
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California
"Randy, you should take lessons first and ask a credible
teaching pro who does not sell clubs if your equipment is holding
you back." - Adam
Schriber, Teaching Professional |
California
"Randy - I
have played and been successful at all sports and I find golf is
the only one I needed guidance on. There are just too many skills
involved to learn on your own. Your own ability will take you to a
certain level and then you must bite the bullet and take lessons
which means you will probably have to change a lot of what you
have already learned. Get with a capable professional who has
taught, as their primary source of income, for at least 10 years.
They have learned cause & effect and most likely will try to
work with what you have. Observe potential instructors, ask
questions of their students, and see the volume of their business
- male & female. This will give you insight if this is the
person for you. See if they take notes on your golf history, ask
questions on injuries, sports background, goals, practice time
availability, etc. After a few lessons, if you don' get what they
are saying and they are not communicating to you, find another
teacher. You, however, have to be willing to change and take steps
backwards in order to go forwards. We are not magicians or miracle
workers. We only facilitate your learning and are with you a very
short amount of time. Your obligation is to take what you have
heard and seriously put it into practice and ignore what your
friends have to say about it. Good luck & Good Golfing."
- Kati
Biszantz, Teaching Professional |
California
"Lessons first...but make sure they are the right
lessons. Keep it simple and stick to the basics. Wouldn't hurt for
you to have a little knowledge of the golf swing and the golf instructor."
- David
Ruvolo, Teaching Professional |
Colorado
"I would take lessons and have a pro fit you once she/he
made any important basic adjustment to your swing." - Paula
Adelman, Teaching Professional |
Florida
"Randy: It sounds like we need to wipe the slate clean
and start over because you are thinking of way too many things.
You may not have all of the challenges that you think! A twenty
handicapper is just a few chips and putts away from being in the
80's. This is a good question that many people should be asking
who go out and purchase equipment, only to find that it is not fit
for them when they are on the lesson tee. It is wise to work with
an instructor that is going to help you progress at a level less
challenging that worrying about all of those swing thoughts.
Beginning with putting, a good instructor will have you hitting
chip shots, then pitch shots, then shots off of a tee... get the
picture? It is only when you are hitting consistently off the tee
that you should be concerned about fitting, or even sinking any
amount of money in clubs. When your "authentic swing" is
identified, the good instructor will then fit you for the clubs
you need. This may not even then be a full set. There are several
companies that allow purchase of single clubs at a very reasonable
price. Your investment in equipment is directly related to your
enjoyment of the game and should be taken seriously. Make sure you
are getting your advice from someone who believes in the approach
here. You will know that your best interest is a concern." - Tony
Simpson, Teaching Professional
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Florida
"Fix
the swing before any serious fitting processes. The shaft flex is crucial
(flex points, tip, mid or butt flex points). This will influence
the lie angle as well." Mike
Calbot, Teaching Professional
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Florida
"It's
critical that you get properly fitted clubs before your swing
habits are deeply ingrained with your existing clubs. See your
local Henry-Griffitts fitter for the best possible fit."
- David
Balbi, Teaching Professional
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Florida
"Since you have been playing for two years and have
established a handicap, I would suggest that you have a
professional fit you and compare the results with the specs on
your current clubs. If the specs vary greatly, I would definitely
suggest having your clubs changed, if it's possible and cost
effective, or buying a new set. Some of your problems could be a
direct result of ill-fitted clubs. Remember, you want a club fit
for you, not to modify your swing to fit the club."
- Andrea
Drake, Teaching Professional |
Florida
"Lessons first, then fitted for clubs. In your case now,
go get fitted."
- Sean
Gorgone, Teaching Professional |
Illinois
"Randy: To answer your question, "which comes first,
the chicken or the egg?"... take lessons first or be fit for
clubs? The first thing one should do is learn the basic
fundamentals of the various swings... hold, stance, posture, aim
and alignment and swing. All of this is done without a golf ball.
After all of these pieces are habituated (learned), then and only
then is the golf ball introduced. When the golf ball is introduced
and centeredness of hit is the goal, the golf club is fit to the
individual. This ensures that there will be no compensations
needed to achieve the desired ball flight. I have followed this
formula (Thanks to Chuck Hogan) and it has never failed. Check out
"Learning Golf" or "Rethinking Golf" by Chuck
Hogan if you would like more information. Thank you for your
inquiry."
- Ryan
Graff, Teaching Professional
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Missouri
"I would first get a lesson
to review your fundamentals, especially your posture. I have
seen too many people spend hundreds of dollars on clubs that
hurt them more than help. If you would like to see the
difference, set-up in front of a mirror with your normal
posture and look at how the club head lays on the ground. Now
set-up feeling taller to the ball with a straight spine. Rear
out, chest out and your chin up. Now look at the
difference in the position of the club head." - David
Mulso, Teaching Professional
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Pennsylvania
"Randy: first take lessons and try to get an
understanding of what will make your swing more consistent.
Remember, Freddy Couples won at Augusta using Tom Watson's wife's
3- wood. Hardly custom fitted. It's all about swinging the
club." - Bob
Sheppard, Teaching Professional |
Pennsylvania
"Dear Randy: That is a very good and very fair question.
One that I often get. My answer to you would be to do both at the
same time. And here is why.....You first need to do a little
research in your area and find out not only who is recognized as
an expert fitter, but an excellent teacher as well. If you
can find that person, then I'd feel comfortable in doing both.
This can person will have a keen eye for where your golf swing
currently is and where it possibly can go based on your
dedication. There is a term known as a Compensation fit, this
is done when the pupil says to me, "Listen, I play 2 times a
week, never practice and don't want to....Can you put something in
my hands that will help reduce the curve of my ball?"
While this player will see immediate improvement in ball flight,
they are destined for little improvement. Another term is a
Corrective fit, this type of fit will not look good at first, in
terms of lie board marks, but if the player makes the corrections
he and his Swing Coach have decided on, then he's there. Another
note I'd like to make is that the companies I fit will allow the
customer to send clubs back free of charge one time to make a lie
angle alteration. While they will not re-shaft for free, they will
make the one time lie angle adjustment. Keep that in mind
when choosing a brand. This allows for change, as your swing gets
better. Anyway, I've gone on too long, feel free to contact me if
I may be of any further assistance. Don't keep your head down."
- Mike
Dynda, Teaching Professional |
South
Carolina
"As a golf professional, its hard not to say take a lesson
first. However, I feel that since the equipment is such an
important part of the process, you should be fitted first. If the
lie of the club is wrong it can cause you to go left or right and
no lesson will correct this because it is equipment failure. If
the length is wrong it can cause poor body or wrist movement. A
lot of variables can happen with the wrong equipment. Why not
eliminate the tool and work on the process, instead of trying to
figure one or the other on a daily basis." - Sean
Carey, Teaching Professional |
Texas
"The
chicken comes first. Take more lessons, say for a few months, then
get fitted."
- Kim
J. Brown, Teaching Professional
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Texas
"Randy. We can fit for shaft flex and length at any
level. Other than that variable, I would do lessons first. Buy a
set that the lie can be adjusted when your game gets more
consistent."
- Dave
Baron, Teaching Professional
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Texas
"Randy: How tall are you? If you are 5'10,"
and have clubs less than ten years old. They probably fit (in the
ballpark). Make sure that your fitter doesn't try to fix your ball
flight without taking into consideration your potential. Example:
If you slice you don't want him to just make your clubs upright to
fix that mistake if you are the mistake. Best of luck." - Mark
Moore, Teaching Professional
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Texas
"Take lessons then get fitted to a set." - Fred
Collins, Teaching Professional
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