FORE! (If you yell this a lot, try a lesson!) Can you hit this thing right every time?

Need a Lesson?
Click here to search the directory.

Offering Lessons?
Click here to learn about enrollment.
 
Questions & Answers
Responses from PGA/LPGA Teachers on FINDaLESSON.com                                                                                  << BACK
From John, golfer:
What causes the reverse pivot?
PGA/LPGA TEACHING PROFESSIONAL RESPONSES:
California
"A stiff left arm and the left shoulder dipping down on the take a way causes a reverse pivot. Stay relaxed and level." - John DeSantis, Teaching Professional
California
"John - This is what has kept me in business for over 27 years teaching and that is the idea of keeping your head down or still. This is the most overused and misunderstood idea in golf!!! The head only stays down and still in putting as you don't want your lower body to move. The head must move in the swing as it is attached to the spine so as the shoulders turn, the head must swivel and actually move somewhat due to the weight shift of the body. By trying to keep the head "still", the lower body sways back and forth or moves up & down, the exact move that is trying to be prevented. If the head does move it is caused by some other error and you are only seeing the symptoms. To fix this, try this drill:  for right-handers, 1)set up to ball; 2) bring club up so it rests on right shoulder parallel to ground; 3) turn shoulders so back is to target; 4) raise arms and club up so club is parallel to ground and target line; 5) look in mirror. You will now see you have turned your left shoulder behind the ball so it is over your right instep.  When you reverse pivot, you actually lean towards the target with your upper body (the reverse). This is a difficult move to correct so seek out a respected professional for help but if they start holding your head down, go elsewhere quickly!  Good Golfing!" 
- Kati Biszantz, Teaching Professional
California
"John: The Reverse Pivot that you are asking about is what I call Upper Body Reverse. By trying to keep your head still it will be tough for you to get your upper body behind the ball. Over the past 75 years players have been told to keep their head still. The best players in the world over the past 75 years have moved their head." - Bob Veroulis, Teaching Professional
Colorado
"Lack of body turn causes the "reverse pivot". The swing is made too much with the arms, with neither hips nor shoulders turning enough to naturally facilitate a proper weight shift onto the rear foot on the back swing. Your back swing begins with hips and shoulders turning away from the ball together
("one-piece" with the arms), THEN the arms swing the club UP to the top as the body continues to turn. Feel your weight on the insole of your shoe, and the muscle just above your knee "wrap" as you make a better turn away from the ball. A better back swing turn will result in a better turn through the
downswing, into a balanced finish with your weight moved naturally to the target-side foot. Practice these two turns by hitting balls from side hill lies, with the ball ABOVE your feet, to help you get the feel of the TWO TURNS lesson." - William Kipp, Teaching Professional
Colorado
"An incorrect back swing is caused by incorrect information in your brain, which in turn leads to an incorrect set up. Your set up and swing are being sabotaged by incorrect information, nothing more, nothing less." - Jim Sanborn, Teaching Professional
Connecticut
"John, one of the causes is trying to keep your head to still. This can create a number of problems. The head must rotate a little with the upper torso, as you create your back swing. This will allow you to coil the upper body around the lower keeping the weight on the right side (if you are right handed). Then as you swing through you can transfer to the target side. If you keep the head to still that forces the weight to the left side at the top of the back swing. A good drill for you would be on a sunny day. Set up so that the sun is at your back which will create a shadow. Now put a tee in the ground and cover the tee with the shadow of your head make sure that the tee is in the middle of your head. Go ahead and create a back swing look at the shadow if the tee position hasn't moved or if it is on the right side of the shadow you are creating a reverse pivot. Ideally we want the tee to be on the left side of the shadow close to the ear. Good golfing." - Sherri Keller, Teaching Professional
Florida
"Hey John, generally, a reverse pivot is caused by a hands and arm takeaway or a lift rather than a shoulder turn. You want to create width in your back swing not length. Two things I want you to think about. 1. At address, I want you to "cheat" a little by setting up with about 70% of your weight on your back foot. This should place your head and shoulders well behind the ball. Make sure the shoulders are parallel to your target line. You may even feel like your right shoulder is lower than the left. This is good. This is a practice method that is exaggerated to give you the feel of staying behind the ball.  2. Simply concentrate on the ole "low-n-slow take away. I like to say the first 24 inches of the swing. This would be a great key thought for your swing. Think low-n-slow as you start. Your goal is to get your weight to your instep of your right foot. Never let your weight roll to the outside of the right foot. Brace your weight shift with  the inside of the right foot/knee. These are the first 2 things i would look at. But remember, you must finish on the left side, belly button at target. Work on it!  Good luck." 
- Jeff Susdorf, Teaching Professional
Florida
"A reverse pivot is caused because golfers think that their head must remain still when swinging the club. A sway is when the lower body (hips in particular) moves laterally back and through. A pivot is when you rotate your torso and move your upper spine (and head) to the inside of your rear foot on the back swing. The hips NEVER move laterally (only rotate), and the head has to be either set well to the rear at address (if you are target eye dominant), or the head has to move to the rear on the back swing (if you are rear eye dominant). Good luck!" - Joe Sciortino, Teaching Professional
Florida
"John: A reverse pivot can be caused by many things. What it is is an improper (powerless weight ) shift. You can help yourself BY #1 setting up good to the ball (clubface and body) all parallel to your target. #2 pivot behind the ball, keeping your right knee firm and flexed; checkpoint make sure your shoulders our turned behind the ball and #3 feel like you keep your head up high (only your left eye) on the ball! If you have any further questions, fellow Floridian, call me and I'll send you a video." 
- Sean Gorgone, Teaching Professional
Florida
"John, Is it really a reverse pivot? Some people confuse a reverse pivot with over rotation. It is also confused with a slide laterally with just a arm pick up or no pivot. I would like more information before any constructive suggestions can be made. Regards." - Mike Calbot, Teaching Professional
Georgia
"A reverse pivot can be a result from improper pivot and or weight shift. Many of the times a player over swings the club to where the length of the swing pushes the weight on the left side so the player has to transfer the weight in the other direction of target to get the arms and club to go to the target. Tip, Try a few three quarter swings and load into the right side so you have something to turn into - the left side for right handed players." - Bin Brandon, Teaching Professional
Georgia
"John: It has been through teaching for a number of years that I have found the reverse pivot to be a problem with most players. A couple of suggestions would be to: 1: Make sure your weight is properly balanced at the beginning of the swing, at least 50-60% of your weight on the instep of the right foot (right handed golfer). 2: On the back swing, make sure the right shoulder does not go above the
left at the top of the swing. 3: Make sure that your right shoulder goes behind the golf ball on the back
swing. 4: Do not go beyond where your flexibility will allow you to go. 5: Try not to collapse the knees during the course of the swing. I hope this helps as a beginning to understand what usually happens when there is a reverse pivot. Good luck and if you need any more help, contact me at Woodmont Golf and Country Club (770)345-9260 ext. 5." - Keith A. Cain, Teaching Professional
Indiana
"John:
A reverse pivot is generally caused by the back swing being too upright. I might suggest you stand with each foot on a regular bucket and take back swings using your shoulders to take away the club. If you reverse pivot and lift the club on the back swing, you will fall off the buckets."
- Jeff Mathew, Teaching Professional
Indiana
"Basically, I believe a reverse pivot is caused from the improper muscle groups taking the club away. Usually an over active right hand for the right-handers is lifting the club in the back swing verses a good shoulder turn is what puts the weight back on your left side at the top of your swing. Try working on a good shoulder turn during the initial takeaway." - Bruce Cohen, Teaching Professional
Michigan
"The reverse pivot move is caused by an inability to transfer weight to the right side during the back
swing (for a right-handed player). When your club goes back, your weight should shift to your right side,
when your club comes to the impact position - your weight should shift back to the left (front) side.
Good luck." - Nathan Oake, Teaching Professional
Minnesota
"Trying to keep the either the clubface or your arms on the target line going back. The club should follow your body back, i.e., keep the relationship of the club to your body the same as you go back. The entire swing, for that matter..." - Phil Hurrle, Teaching Professional
Minnesota
"It's visual. Your attempt to keep your head down and your eye on the ball doesn't allow your head to swivel and get behind the ball on the back swing. Call me for a drill." 
- Jim Manthis, Master Professional
North Carolina
"John: In a reverse pivot the golfer leaves too much weight on the left foot at the top of the back swing and then reverses too much weight onto the right foot, away from the target on the downswing. This will cause a loss of power and this will cause the lowest point in the swing to occur behind the ball. This fault probably occurs more with irons." - Ben Hynson, Teaching Professional
Oregon
"Dear John:
A reverse pivot is usually caused by making a big turn in your back swing with no loading of the back leg. Think of your back swing as a move to the right, rather than a turn. Keep flex in your back leg as you move behind the ball in your back swing. Your head should move back 2-5 inches as you start your back swing. At address tilt your spine back away from the target about 10 degrees. This means your left hip should be closer to the target than your left shoulder. When you achieve getting behind the ball in the back swing, you must then go forward and cover the ball in the forward swing. Your current habits will lead you to hang back in the forward swing. Good Luck!" 
Bruce Furman, Teaching Professional
South Carolina
"John: What a great question. The fact John is that we are not trying to take the club upward. Check out my site at doctorgolf.homestead.com and let's discuss your dilemma. Should you come to SC, I guarantee you will never deal with a reverse pivot again. Yours in golf." 
- Michael Lucas, Teaching Professional
South Carolina
"John: A reverse pivot is a term used to describe how you shift weight through out the shot.  With most all athletic functions, such as pitching a baseball, hitting a baseball, throwing a football, even playing a curling stone, action and weight tends to move forward.  This is also true of a good golf swing; weight will shift forward through out the swing.  If you have a reverse weight shift or pivot, this means that your weight is moving behind the ball rather than through the ball as you swing the club.  Not an uncommon fault of golfers, and easily correctable. First, try to imagine that as you swing the club all of your weight will move from the back of your stance to the front of your stance.  You can see this happen when you use a full length mirror.  Stand in front of the mirror with your hands crossed to the opposite shoulder.  Take a stance, and turn forward, allowing the back foot to roll on to its toe.  Examine yourself in the mirror to make sure that your back foot is up on the toe, not the ball of the foot.  Hold this position for a count of 10, if possible.  You should repeat this drill several times daily to help your body better understand how to shift weight forward through the swing. Next, on the range or in the back yard, begin swinging a club with the same weight shift, back to forward.  Make smaller swings at first, so your body can become accustomed to how to balance this action.  As your body becomes more comfortable with this movement, it will naturally begin to speed the process, therefore allowing for more distance in your shots. Hope this tip helps you.  Let me know how it works for you." 
- John Hughes, Teaching Professional
Texas
"Tension not allowing you to move behind the ball. the amount of weight that moves to the left side on the back swing will fall back to the right side on the forward swing. Make sure your grip is a bout a 4 on a scale of 10 as far as grip pressure is concerned. Also let your head move a little to the right as you make your back swing. You will be getting behind it and staying behind it in no time. Good Luck." 
- Dave Baron, Teaching Professional
Texas
"John: A reverse pivot happens when you lean toward your target and then fall away from it during your swing. Make sure you lean your upper body away as you turn. Best of luck." 
- Mark Moore, Teaching Professional
Texas
"My Friend: A reverse pivot come from improper coiling on the back swing. If you coil properly, you should have 90+% of your weight on the inside right foot. Now you are loaded properly. Drill: Hold a club across your chest. Pretend you have a plate on the grip end. Make a turn that way, the reverse pivot will be gone. You are turning, not dipping. See a qualified PGA Professional to help you, can't find one, come see me in Corpus." - Bob Hasbrouck, Teaching Professional
Virginia
"One often overlooked cause of a reverse pivot is the side bend of the hips at address. This means the left hip joint is lower than the right hip joint. This causes the spine to tilt toward the target during the back swing pivot and consequently, little or no weight is shifted into the back foot. A good exercise to cure this fault is to set up with the left hip higher than the right, then rotate the left shoulder level to away from the target to a spot over the right leg. Proper weight shift is caused by stacking the upper body over the right leg." - Chuck Will, Teaching Professional
Washington
"Dear John: Great question, this is a problem I encounter frequently. The most common "physical" cause of a reverse pivot is a lack of flexibility which then causes the golfer's right knee (assuming he/she is right handed golfer)  to straighten during the back swing. I state "physical", because this problem usually has a mental root cause which is the desire for the golfer to make a full turn. However, many of us lack the flexibility to make a full turn, so we cheat by not keeping our knee flexed.  Remember, loading your weight over your right foot correctly is the main purpose of the back swing, and far more important than making a full turn. If the golfer maintains their right knee flex as they turn away from the ball, they might experience a shortening of the back swing, but they can then use their flexed knee and loaded up weight to make a proper transfer of that weight forward in the down swing. But like all swing compensations, there are several possible causes, including equipment. 
So take a lesson from a golf professional to cover all the bases. Good luck." 
- Kris Kallem, Teaching Professional